Together, we can beat this (VOX) thing.

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Word, indeed.
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You put everything in great writing. I'll simply link a post to your post... I don't think I can word all the issues as well as you have.
They have released a statement.
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Well said. Thanks for linking Xeyli - that is how I found this post (it was in the top 3 on my main page), likely the only way I would have found it, given the new changes. I will do the same and hope this helps draw the attention of SixApart. I, too, was surprised to find no urgent recall this morning. I left my feedback, but clearly we aren't getting the message through.
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[Great Post]

I'm just glad you didn't take off so soon after I just met you. Phew. As a developer myself I suppose I'm so used to gui's changing on a regular basis that I don't even flinch when something changes. You do make some good points in this post and I think that Vox is going to step up to the plate to try and satisfy many of the things people have written in about. :-)

Xeyli, thanks for the heads up on the statement, and thanks to everyone for chiming in on this. I've read their statement, and though I am dismayed about [TiG], I'm hopeful they will fix the neighborhood part and the comments. I'm assuming they count the comments as part of the neighborhood issue, but Xeyli's comment on that brought it up.

Those are really my two main deal-breakers: Neighborhood updates and comments being on the home page.

Their statement, though, doesn't mean that everyone shouldn't still post your displeasure. A statement is neither a fix nor a band-aid, it's just a statement.

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They certainly sound set in their ways in terms of this release, but then again, if they've given on these few items, there's no telling what might still change if the protests keep up.
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"Here, here!" she shouts as she pounds the table.
Well said!
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I had decided to really give it a try this weekend, but have found myself increasing frustrated over the new design. I'm usually pretty good at adapting to changes, and have embraced all the other updates. I just can't seem to find anything that I really like about this one, or anything that has been improved for me. And I'm still really sad about [TIG].
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I currently did like TIG. The other changes haven't really bothered me that much.
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Word.
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I also have posts a couple of times about the new design. I'm headed to change the tags on those posts now. I didn't word it as greatly as you did but I still wrote how I felt about everything.
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very well written. you've hit all the points i care about too.

i want my home page back.

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I didn't take the survey, but I have posted and sent Feedback a number of times on this very issue.

I edited my last post I put in my space to include the tags you suggested.
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AMEN AMEN AMEN!!

Okay, I've not been on vox hardly at all today due to my frustration and inability to write anything cohesive. Sigh. I am hanging on my a very thin thread of hope that somehow I will get some of my much loved features about VOX back. sigh.

You know, in a useful redesign, something becomes more intuitive. This redesign is so effed up, I can't even find anything. It's not a matter of "getting used to it," it's a matter of just bad design. Interesting thought about increasing advertising revenue.

Hey, if 6A sells and my household, say, happens to have some 6A stock, will I be rich? If that's the case and the redesign increases page views and advertising revenue, I love it. More power to you, Vox. Hooray for stupid usability. Yippee!
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Man, this is user interface design gone horribly wrong! This is the first thing any computing/software student learns at school, college and uni!

I logged onto Vox after a few weeks away and was shocked by the even greater lack of transparency and user friendly-ness! I say "even greater" because the previous design/layout wasn't as user friendly as it should have been!

The layout is big and bulky, HUGE amounts of space is wasted!

Personally, as an artist who uses Vox purely for demo submission and A&R contact i think Vox is fuckin shit! I've always felt deep down that SonyBMG took a step back by teaming up with Vox/SixApart but i've still kept faith and hoped that something good may come out of it.

Oh well... Rant over... Back to the studio!

Excellent post by the way!

Kang.

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Much out there is about money, not about users. Well, that's how business works, isn't it. What, besides the terrible features and many requests gone unnoticed (stats, open comments, backup/export posts, recommendations opt-out...), bothers me is the seemingly veiling of goals when at the same time, users are asked to submit their honest feedback.
It's not about us, as much as Ronald MacDonald isn't the kids' friend. Inconvenient truth.
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I wrote my post this morning before I saw this one....well said.
where is this statement? i can't even find their own post. :: grumble ::

Their statement is right here.

It's funny how this post has become a "case in point" situation. I'm trying to keep up with the comments here, but to do so, I have to go to the homepage, click on "You" and then find the post and expand it to see the comments. Since the comments section on the homepage doesn't seem to refresh regularly, my only other option is to click comments, then click more comments, then wade through all those posts just to find a comment on my own post that was just written. Ugh.

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Every time in the past I bitched about following comments, I got pointed to this page . With a little tweaking, I think this could be a good substitute for the Vox homepage....like, if all the posts were expandable trees, so you could just expand one post on the page and view the latest comments on it. As it is now, though, it still takes forever to load the page and it still has the problem of requiring you to scroll down a bit if the post you're looking to follow has been buried by a more popular post.
This is really wonderful, beautifully and succinctly stated. I am quietly hopeful that while SixApart may not completely retract the release, they may either scale it back or put back in some of these much loved features. I haven't even been able to keep up on my neighborhood because the ease of use is just GONE.
p.s. - Congrats on the [technology is good] tag.
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i have to say, for all the complaining everyone's doing, VOX is doing a fantastic job at being open and receptive to it. and if you look around, people aren't fleeing . . . they're discussing, and discovering, and making great points. i believe *that* is what blogging on VOX is all about - that we are a community, and as a community, we care about the tie that binds us all together.

thanks, to whomever picked up on this post and put it in the [technology is good] section. although it's still not the classic [this is good], it's close.
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You express my sentiments exactly.

Ironically, even though we have many similar neighbors, and have interacted on some posts ... I found this post of yours through the [Technology is Good] feature.

:)
It would be pretty cool if everybody could agree upon a tag for their "I Hate the New Design" posts ... and that tag showed up in the Popular Tag Cloud on the Explore Page.

An interesting statement indeed...
This would have made more sense if it'd been an individual reply, but nevertheless, I'll go ahead and respond to it.

I'm sure people will get tired of the LiveJournal anecdotes, but yes, SixApart is not the big, bad meanie that community made them out to be. Maybe it might be that VOX is an original 6A creation, but yes, this community has responded quite differently-- in a much more proactive way. And yes, there are silver linings to the grey clouds we perceive.

I've mentioned Dmitry Rubinstein before-- over at the LiveJournal users on VOX group, he actually came up with some solutions to bring back some of the features we miss here that were over there. Granted, these are Greasemonkey scripts, and not everyone runs Firefox-- but it's a fine example of a user going out and making a solution that will work in lieu of things actually being hardcoded into the site.
I am with you 100%!! In addition to all of your points - the redesign has rendered my access to my blog inaccessible from my iPhone. I can't even click on anything in the newly designed menu!!!
Wow... I didn't think it would be affecting at that kind of level, to where someone can't even click on it. I don't have an iPhone, and I post everything from PC/laptop... There's got to be something 6A can do for those of you who blog from PDA/phones.

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